Xah Lee's Unixism
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Fri Sep 3 20:28:40 CEST 2004
jmfbahciv at aol.com writes:
> In article <ApudnfQdCY-dfavcRVn-pQ at speakeasy.net>,
> rpw3 at rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) wrote:
>><jmfbahciv at aol.com> wrote:
>>| rpw3 at rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) wrote:
>>| >| Consider the "PIP" command.
>>| >Indeed. And COPY & DEL & DIR, etc.
>>| Well, not quite :-). COPY and DELETE called PIP via a CCL
>>| command. DIRECT became its own program. To do a directory
>>| using PIP required a switch and wasn't a monitor level command.
>>Yes, I knew that. What I was trying to convey is that the *names*
>>of those DOS commands had also been copied from the DEC lineages.
>>That is, COPY/DEL/DIR rather than cp/rm/ls.
They are not DOS commands, thay are CPM commands that just happened
to report for duty in redmondia.
> IIRC, those verbs didn't show up until after 4S72 of TOPS-10 (it
> wasn't TOPS-10 back then either). I would also suspect that the PIP
> didn't originate at DEC either. A lot of those guys did work at MIT
> before they coalasced into a startup company.
All of them where in the 4.x monitir I used. many of the 427 source file
are on Tim's site, so you can have a look in COMTAB and see.
> My whole point is that attributing who started it is not as
> interesting as how the "it" flowed through the biz.
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