What about an EXPLICIT naming scheme for built-ins?

Paul McGuire ptmcg at austin.rr._bogus_.com
Fri Sep 3 22:26:13 CEST 2004

"David Fraser" <davidf at sjsoft.com> wrote in message
news:chai28$pd8$1 at ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> Marco Aschwanden wrote:
> > I just read the changes for 2.4 and while scanning the list the past
> > tense built-ins got my attention:
> >
> > sorted() - a new builtin sorted() acts like an in-place list.sort() but
> > can be used in expressions, as it returns a copy of the sequence,
> >
> > reversed() - a new builtin that takes a sequence and returns an iterator
> > that loops over the elements of the sequence in reverse order (PEP 322)
> >
> >
> > sort() works in-place.
> > reverse() works in-place.
> >
> How about reversed() returning a sequence, like sorted does, but adding
> an iterator function called riter or reverseiter to iterate over
> sequences in reverse order. That would then be similar to the iter
> builtin. You could have a sortediter as well
> David

Huh!  I just assumed that sorted() and reversed() would both return new
lists, one sorted, and one reversed.  I should think if you wanted an
iterator, you could use iter(sorted(x)) or iter(reversed(x)).  But to get an
iterator over the reverse of a sequence, without making a copy of the
sequence, then this should have a different name, something like riter, or

In the current system, how does one construct a reversed list?
 -   revx = x[::-1]
 -   revx = [ i for i in reversed(x) ]
 -   revx = [tooth for tooth in ... ] # not a real example, just wanted to
follow up after "i for i"

(What if you wrote a sorted_iter that would iterate over an existing list in
sorted order?)

-- Paul

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