Announcing PyCs, a new Python-like language on .Net
EP at zomething.com
Thu Sep 2 08:19:25 CEST 2004
Jeremy Bowers commented:
> Basically, all the *really* cute Py* names are taken. I'd recommend doing
> something that cleanly separates you from Python, and then just note the
> descendance. The farther you are getting from an implementation of Python,
> the more true this becomes. I think you will actually come to regret the
> association if you make it too strong, as people will get ideas about your
> language from the association, then be upset about the language when it
> doesn't meet their expectations. Better to start fresh.
First, why do you feel the need to create a new programming language?! If we wanted to be around innovation, do you thnk we'd work and play in IT? ;-)
Re: "fresh" above: +1... and
Naming is a fun exercise if you have time for it, and I'd suggest if you are going to sink your time into developing a programming language, you cannot afford not to spend the time on the name.
Free associate, go to the beach or mountains, make love, ride a bicycle, stand on your head, go to a concert. Let ideas come to you without judging them (or requiring a "py" in them!) Gather names, toss them around more later unitl one grabs you, sticks with you.
The name is actually the "brand" of the language; if you have high aspirations, you'll want a good brand flag to pursue them under.
"Groovy" is a good name
"Python" is a better name than "Perl"
"Java" was a good name that seemed to make a difference
"Prothon" (no offense intended) was a name with a prententious sound
"FORTRAN" is a solid name, and the language survives still
"LISP" is a name you'd almost want to explain to people, like the language is only for insiders
"XML", "PHP", and "CSS" work (barely) because they have so few letters; but are they names, are they really brands?
XHTML, OASIS, XSD, RDF, XDR, XSL, XSLT, XQL --- these have no brand power at all. And I have to think about each to remember what it does and how it fits in.
"SOAP" is a better name than "XML-RPC", but it would be better if it was "Soap"
If you can't come up with a good name, use a letter and symbol or three (but no more than 3), e.g. C, C++, C#. Such will be non-objectionable, but will not help you in getting your language/technology adopted, or even remembered.
Unfiltered ideas offered (30 seconds worth): Ray, Fish, V, Box, Fresh, Rotten, Spin, Tube, Hat, Bone, Gin, Clean, Tack, Pirate, Cell, Root, Open, Dove...
You can do better than those, but those might be better (I'd say are definitely better) than Pycs or Pyxs or whatever you said (which, hint, hint, I can not remember).
MS can get away with naming its languages _anything_. They don't need to market to you. You just need to comply with them. ;-) .... you WILL assimilate...
What you name your language will have at least a subconscious impact on its future.
As for domain name availability... screw the domain hogs, people can find you under something other than a .com or .org. If your new language (let's say "Bone") gains real traction and becomes a force, you may be able to acquire "Bone.com" or "Bone.org" later. The name is the brand and should not be driven by domain availability.
cheers and good luck!
Chief Brandfoo, Waddiz!
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