So, testosterone wins again! We get to boast: "Mine's smaller than your's" Lets wait for Pythonic to go to bed, then sneak downstairs, go to that tripple-X rated 'shortest solutions' website, and 'whack-off' some solutions. Unghhh, my solution... its coming!!! Well don't forget to clean up before Pythonic wakes up. Happy new year :-) - Pad.