Python! Is! Truly! Amazing!

Steve Holden steve at
Mon Jan 3 21:55:49 CET 2005

Ron Garret wrote:

> In article <mailman.85.1104749220.22381.python-list at>,
>  jfj <jfj at> wrote:
>>Ron Garret wrote:
>>>In article <1104657461.868175.252380 at>,
>>> "Erik  Bethke" <erikbethke at> wrote:
>>>>I have NEVER experienced this kind of programming joy.
>>>Just wait until you discover Lisp!
>>I've had it with all those lisp posts lately ;-)
>>There were functional and non-functional programming languages (the 
>>first being *much* simpler to implement). There is a *reason* people 
>>chose C over lisp. It's not that we were all blind and didn't see the 
>>amazingness of lisp. Procedural languages are simply better, and I'm not 
>>replying to this flamewar.
> Then neither am I.
> Yes, there's a reason people choose C over Lisp, just as there is a 
> reason that people choose Windows over OS X, the Ford Taurus over the 
> Lexus SC400, and Perl over Python.  But I'm pretty sure joy isn't that 
> reason.  If joy is part of your quality metric for a programming 
> language then Lisp is worth a look.  (And it costs a lot less than a 
> Lexus.)

Well, in the Computer Programming for Everyone stakes I'm pretty sure 
that LISP and its derivatives don't stand a chance, simply because of 
the rebarbative syntax one must use to express even relatively simple 
algorithms and data structures.

While the language has a lot going for it in the hands of an experienced 
and determined LISPer, the average programmer just isn't going to "get it".

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