Thoughts on Guido's ITC audio interview
t-meyer at ihug.co.nz
Fri Jul 8 03:28:19 CEST 2005
> "Java" as a term means different things to different people,
Agreed. Python is similar in this respect - it's common to refer to cPython
here as Python, for example.
> but I expect most would think of the core language and its
> standard library first and the JRE/JVM second. So saying "the
> problem of X is Java" when you really mean "the problem of X
> in platform Y is Sun's JVM in Y" is kinda misleading.
Obviously I wouldn't agree :) The discussion here is about Java from a
user's POV, not a programmer (because we are using a Java application to
program in Python), and from the user's POV, the JRE/JVM is what is
important, not the language. Much the same as a programmer who is using an
IDE written in Python to program in some other language would really only
care about how the Python VM performs.
> Disclaimer: I am neither Java's not Eclipse's advocate; I'll
> choose python over Java any day, but let's put the blame
> where it is due.
If there isn't a good VM for the OS that the vast majority of computers use,
then the language has a problem, IMO. Having a great language spec is one
thing, but it's not really much use without a good implementation.
It would be interesting to know which JRE the Eclipse advocates are using,
and which the people that dislike Eclipse are using...
More information about the Python-list