Thoughts on Guido's ITC audio interview

Markus Wankus markus_GETRIDOFALLCAPSwankus at
Wed Jun 29 02:31:08 CEST 2005

Stephen Kellett wrote:
> In message <mailman.983.1119954269.10512.python-list at>, Simon 
> Brunning <simon.brunning at> writes
>> Eclipse's refactorings are a great boon, I find. Refectoring is never
>> *fully* automatic, of course, but the ability to, for example, select
>> a chunk of code and have it extracted into a separate method with all
>> needed arguments and the return value worked out for you is very
>> helpful. All you have to do is give the new method a name. And this
>> sort of thing can certainly improve readability.
> This is not an attach on you Simon, but if people are relying on that 
> type of thing for increases in software productivity they are hiring the 
> wrong people.
> Stephen

Have you ever tried anything that provides real, usable refactoring like 
Eclipse does with Java?  I guarantee if you used it more than a few 
times your view would most likely change.

The fact is, code evolves.  You simply cannot write high-quality 
software in one pass.  Good refactoring tools save time, and therefore 
money.  I sure wouldn't hire anyone who thought otherwise...


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