Getting the word to conventional programmers

[Roose]

> Except from a the standard, powerful,
> looks-good-everywhere-and-has-a-tree-widget GUI toolkit? :)
>
> Seriously, I think this is *very* important.

Yes, and a modern toolset/IDE.  Generators and decorators and all that are
nice, but their usefulness pales in comparison to having a decent IDE or GUI
toolkit.

Though I might disagree that Java has a good GUI toolkit, it has better
tools than any language out there IMO.  And I don't really like Java
personally.