Python for a 10-14 years old?

[Arthur]

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:50:36 -0700, Jules Dubois
<32k992202 at sneakemail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday 23 March 2005 22:03, tnozh at yahoo.com <tnozh at yahoo.com>
>(<1111640584.385919.268180 at l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>) wrote:
>
>> Is there something out there like "Python for kids" which would explain
>> *basic* programming concepts in a way which is accessible and
>> entertaining for kids aged 10-14
>
>It's not what you asked for, but you should consider Squeak Smalltalk and
>eToys.  The GUIs that we use today are largely the work of Alan Kays's
>group at Xerox in the 1970s.  Dr. Kay has spent the last 35 years trying to
>make computers educational and fun for children.  If you're interested, see
>
>  http://www.squeak.org/     (The Squeak Smalltalk site)
>  http://www.squeakland.org/ (The eToys site)
>
>Squeak runs on Linux, MacOS, and even Windows, and it's free.

I again take the opportunity to raise a hand in protest.

Going to these sites I learn that Kay is the "Father of the Personal
Computer" working from "a deep understanding of how children learn".

He also may be someone who married himself to a bad idea 30 years ago,
in which he has invested too much, thereby crippling his ability to
confront scientific evidnce in an evenhanded manner.

He is also someone ex of Disney, now of HP, who lectures us on the
destructive infleunce of the profit motive on the development of
computer science and its capacity to enhance our world.

I understand better how Xah Lee got to be Xah Lee when confronted with
the cult of Kay.

Art