Getting the word to conventional programmers

Cameron Laird claird at
Thu Mar 24 02:08:04 CET 2005

In article <1111590036.737601.168710 at>,
 <beliavsky at> wrote:
>Advocates of languages and programming methodologies sometimes compare
>the current version of their favorite language to an old version of
>their disfavored language, resulting in skewed comparisons. For
>example, Conway writes
>"Interpreted languages do two things much better than compiled
>Firstly, they provide more sophisticated programming tools and support
>for more advanced programming techniques. For example, Perl provides
>hashed look-up tables and arbitrary-length arrays as core data types. C
>doesn't even have a proper string type. Likewise, Perl's data sorting
>facilities are integrated into the language, so the sorting criteria
>are directly programmable.
>Having all the basic tools of programming (i.e. high-level data types
>and common algorithms) built into the language, rather than having to
>build them yourself, means that you need to write less code to solve a
>given problem."
>I think most of the advanced programming techniques he mentions are
>part of the C++ Standard Library.

In principle, yes--and that's certainly how C++ fans typically
feel.  Frankly, Perl (and Python ...) implementations remain
more polished and mature than what the STL and allies offer.
I agree in general that people often say, "I like Y in year N
better than I liked X in year N-6, therefore Y is better than
N."  Damian's not particularly prone to that error, though,
and I think, in the case at hand, C++ really *does* continue
to lag.

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