A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

Ken Tilton kentilton at gmail.com
Mon May 8 05:57:37 CEST 2006

olsongt at verizon.net wrote:
> Alex Martelli wrote:
>>Steve R. Hastings <steve at hastings.org> wrote:
>>   ...
>>>>But the key in the whole thread is simply that indentation will not
>>>>scale. Nor will Python.
>>>This is a curious statement, given that Python is famous for scaling well.
>>I think "ridiculous" is a better characterization than "curious", even
>>if you're seriously into understatement.
> When you consider that there was just a big flamewar on comp.lang.lisp
> about the lack of standard mechanisms for both threading and sockets in
> Common Lisp (with the lispers arguing that it wasn't needed) I find it
> "curious" that someone can say Common Lisp scales well.

We're talking about whether the language can grow to have new 
capabilities, while you are talking about libraries, and specifically 
whether different implementations have the same API. They all have 
sockets, just not the same API, probably because, to be honest that is 
not something that belongs in a /language/ API.

But those of us who bounce from implementation to implementation see a 
standard APi as saving us some conditional compilation and (effectively) 
rolling our own common API out of dii implementation's socket APIs, so a 
few socket gurus are working on a standard now.

And yes, they will be able to do this with Common Lisp as it stands.

Try to think a little more rigorously in these discussions, Ok?

Thx, kenny

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