WSDL?

[soring at gmail.com]

CORBA may work fine in an intranet environment, where you can control
the server and the client, but it clearly failed to be a popular choice
on the internet: have you seen any company offering webservices with a
CORBA interface??
The main 2 choices that companies offering webservices seem to have are
REST (Yahoo, Amazon, Google) and SOAP (Amazon, Google).

And no, SOAP is not a Microsoft thing anymore: it's a standard
supported by a lot of large companies (and neither Amazon nor Google
are Microsoft shops, as far as I know).
The reason SOAP moved away from the pure RPC model is because it needed
to support the more modern and flexible distributed computing paradigm
which is "message based", not "RPC based".

But yeah, I fully agree that SOAP is very complicated, and the support
for it is pretty poor.

Sorin

Steve Holden wrote:
> Jorge Vargas wrote:
> > On 11/4/06, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <bj_666 at gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> >>In <mailman.1762.1162647487.11739.python-list at python.org>, Jorge Vargas
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>and please please don't go to corba we need to kill that.
> >>
> >>Have you real reasons or is this a religious thing?  As I see it Corba is
> >>much better supported by Python libs than SOAP is.
> >>
> >
> > I see ZSI as a very good engine for SOAP as for xmlrpc it's "better"
> > since you can interact with a browser and then you can even have json
> > rpc.
> >
> > but yes ur right is mostly because of religious reasons :)
> >
> When SOAP can do everything that Corba can do, and as efficiently, it
> might stand a chance of displacing it. I see SOAP as essentially an ugly
> bloated NIH response of the Microsoft camp to an open specification that
> achieved all its goals in an elegant way. And all to allow inappropriate
> remote-method execution through port 80 to avoid the corporate firewall.
> Which ultimately just made firewalling port 80 that much more difficult.
>
> Microsoft is a poor church, and very uncaring of its adherents. So take
> your religious reasons and leave Corba alone until SOAP is an effective
> competitor ;-)
>
> regards
>   Steve
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