Access to variable from external imported module

jim-on-linux inq1ltd at verizon.net
Fri Nov 24 22:56:58 CET 2006


On Friday 24 November 2006 13:41, John Machin 
wrote:
> jim-on-linux wrote:
> > On Friday 24 November 2006 03:30, John Machin
> >
> > wrote:
> > > jim-on-linux wrote:
> > > > GinTon,
> > > >
> > > > I think this is what you want.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > class Kdoi:
> > >
> > > Is that a typo?
> >
> >        No, it's a style. life seems to be
> > easier to me if one is consistent, all my
> > classes begin with K.
>
> and end with "i"?
>
> > > >    def __init__(self) :
> > > >        self.Fdo()
> > >
> > > What is all this K and F stuff?
> >
> >    It's my style. life seems to be easier  to
> > me if one is consistent all my function begin
> > with F.
>
> You left out a word; the correct way of
> phrasing that is: "All my function _are_ begin
> with F" :-)

No, for Non-Hungrian programmers it's "all-ah me" 
Functions gona begin witha F, not Func. anda 
"all-ah-me" classes gona begin witha K, not Klas.
Anda only me gona Know the Fdiff cause me codea is 
not opena. Anda I finda that it savea me time 
causea I doa thisa way fora a longa time.

Whena I gonna hava to changea maybe I willa.
 
>
> This appears to be a variation on "Hungarian
> notation"; google that for opinions pro & con.
>
> In a certain vernacular, it would be called "an
> effed concept" :-)
>
> > I started doing things like this when the
> > only way to debug was to read each line of
> > code and try to figgure out if it was the
> > problem.
>
> When was that?
That was when bill gates just left Harvard,
basic was brand new, and 4k of memory was 
installed free when you bought a computer, 
(TRS80), my first,. Assemble was the alternative 
to Basic and you had to backup on tape because 
floppies didn't exist. And, most people on this 
site wern't even a gleem in their fathers eye.

> Even years ago, there were 
> slightly better ways. For example, my first
> boss' boss was an enthusiastic coder and
> debugger and also a workaholic. Colleagues who
> lived along the same railway line as he and
> were foolish enough not to hide behind a
> newspaper could have their morning or evening
> reverie disturbed by a cry of "Glad you're
> here! I'll hold the listing, you hold the
> dump!". I get the impression that debugging
> techniques have moved along a little bit since
> then. :-)
>
> > They are my personal sign posts.
> >
> > > >    def Fdo(self):
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >      searchterm = 'help'
> > > >      print searchterm     #local
> > > >
> > > >      self.searchterm = searchterm
> > > >      print self.searchterm #used inside
> > > > the class
> > > >
> > > >      Kdo.searchterm = searchterm   #<<<<
> > > >      print Kdo.searchterm #used outside
> > > > the class Kdomore()
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > class Kdomore(Kdo):
> > > >      def __init__(self) :
> > > >          self.Fdomore()
> > > >
> > > >      def Fdomore(self):
> > > >          searchterm =  Kdo.searchterm   #
> > > > <<<< print searchterm
> > >
> > > It's not apparent what the print statements
> > > are for -- are they part of an attempt to
> > > debug your code?
> >
> > print shows the results wherever a print
> > statement turns up the results = 'help' .
> > I didn't run the code, and it has it has a
> > coding error
>
> I noticed.
>
> > but if removed, the results should be;
> >
> >    searchterm = 'help'
> >    self.searchterm = 'help'
> >    Kdo.searchterm = 'help'

Correct but when writing one must be clear.

Would it be better for me to write, your question
above was Is that a typo?

Or is it better if I were to write, your 
question above, "Is that a typo?", 
is a legimate question, but not clear.

So, to be clear one might write is "Kdoi" 
correct?. 

A clear response would be, it is not "Kdoi", it is 
"Kdo".  

But that's not correct either, it is Kdo.  

If one runs the code I don't expect the user to 
look for "help", I think we will see help and 
will THINK that the results are correct.

THINK is also incorrect, it should be written. 
think, or should it?

 
> No, the result would be
> help
> help
> help
>
> Plug in a text-to-speech module and a phone
> dialer and you're done ;-)
>
> >    Sound silly but many people have trouble
> > with getting a variable from here to there in
> > their code. This shows that it can be done
> >
> > > What gives you the idea that this is what
> > > the OP wants or needs?
> >
> > If I remember right,  he refrased  his first
> > question and asked a second one.
> > Sometimes people don't take the time to write
> > correctly, the questions that are really in
> > their mind. So I guessed.  If Im wrong, he
> > will ignore it.  If I'm right, he will use
> > it.
>
> With luck. Kindly consider another possibility:
> that you are wrong (or just marching to the
> beat of your own tambourine) and he (or she) is
> a newbie & will use it :-)
>

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will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and 
approve or condemn the sentiments of others only 
as they shall square with or differ from his own…"
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