Is a "real" C-Python possible?
Kay Schluehr
kay.schluehr at gmx.net
Wed Dec 12 04:09:00 EST 2007
On Dec 12, 9:04 am, George Sakkis <george.sak... at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2:18 am, Kay Schluehr <kay.schlu... at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 12, 7:34 am, sturlamolden <sturlamol... at yahoo.no> wrote:
> > > I am not sure why a new type annotation syntax was needed Python 3:
>
> > Because people care about a feature when there is @syntax.
>
> Good point; the inverse is not true though: time and time again people
> cared about some syntax for properties without any change so far. The
> result is a handful of different ways to spell out properties; python
> 2.6 will add yet another variation (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/
> python-dev/2007-October/075057.html).
>
> George
Yes, I'm aware. Curiously, whenever property syntax is discussed the
discussion loses track and is dragged away by needless side
discussions. Just look at Stephen Bethards withdrawn PEP 359 [1] in
which he finally muses about replacing the class statement by the make
statement. So the PEP ended in "abstract nonsense" instead of
clarifying the point.
[1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0359/
I vaguely remember a discussion a few years ago, where someone made
the quite reasonable suggestion of introducing some kind of
thunk_statement:
class A(object):
foo = property:
def fget(self):
return self._foo
def fset(self, value):
self._foo = value
which was translated as follows:
class A(object):
def thunk():
def fget(self):
return self._foo
def fset(self, value):
self._foo = value
return vars()
foo = propery(**thunk())
del thunk
Now people started to consider using the compound statement within
expressions as well because the equal sign is used within method
signatures and call syntax. This lead to a general discussion about
the expr/statement distinction in Python, about multiline lambdas and
functional style programming. These association graphs are almost
predictable.
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