The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

Steve Holden steve at
Fri Jul 13 14:07:24 CEST 2007

Twisted wrote:

[on 7/7/07]: I don't know, but it sure as hell isn't emacs.

Then, more recently:

> On Jul 12, 7:10 pm, Miles Bader <mi... at> wrote:
>> Twisted <twisted... at> writes:
>>> I won't dignify your insulting twaddle and random ad-hominem verbiage
>>> with any more responses after this one. Something with actual logical
>>> argumentation to rebut may be another matter of course.
>> Er, why don't you just answer his question (what version)?  He's asking
>> for actual information, which will help us understand what you are
>> (trying) to to say.
>> If you continue to just make vague and unsupported (and rather hostile)
>> assertions, without examples, version numbers, or other concrete
>> information, do you expect anybody will continue listening to you?
> Some people can't let sleeping dogs lie I guess.
That would be yourself you are describing, I presume?

> I can't remember the specific version after all these years. It may
> have been 18 or 19 point something. As for "concrete information" this
> thread is littered with fairly specific anecdotes. I know, I know;
> anecdotes aren't really proof of anything. Got any better suggestions?
> HCI stuff is a bit slippery to try to hang a rigorous theory and
> quantitative facts upon. For most people, a crappy interface isn't
> something they can precisely define, but they know it when they see it
> (or at least try to use it).
If your usage of emacs has to be qualified by "after all these years" 
then you should not have made pejorative remarks about it without 
expecting others whose experience is more recent to correct (or at ;east 
disagree with) you.

Or do you just like the sound of your fingers on the keyboard? ;-)

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