My newbie annoyances so far

[John Nagle]

Isaac Gouy wrote:
> On May 6, 6:09 pm, John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
> 
>>Alex Martelli wrote:
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>>>John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
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>>>>igo... at yahoo.com wrote:
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>>>>>On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle <n... at animats.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
>>>>>>to good implementations of other dynamic languages such
>>>>>>as LISP and JavaScript.

>>    My point is that there are optimizing hard-code compiler implementations
>>of many dynamic languages, including LISP, Self, and Smalltalk, but not Python.
> 
> 
> I guess Lisp is a safe-ish example but I don't think Self really made
> it out of the lab, and it really depends which Smalltalk
> implementation you have in mind and what you think about Pysco.

    See

	http://research.sun.com/self/papers/third-generation.html

on a high performance Self implementation.  That laid the groundwork
for Java's JIT system.

    Here are some early Tamarin benchmarks.

http://www.playercore.com/pub/Tamarin/Avmplus_vs._javascript.htm

    Tamarin doesn't do type inference, though, so they get the best
performance only with type declarations.

				John Nagle