The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

Damien Kick dkixk at
Mon Oct 8 03:07:56 CEST 2007

Roedy Green wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:04 -0500, Damien Kick <dkixk at>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>> "free as in beer". 
> but does not "free beer" nearly always come with a catch or implied
> obligation?

I had been trying to find a good Nietzsche quote about the role of debt 
in the relationship of a child to his or her parents but I could not 
seem to find a good one.  I did, however, find what I think to be an 
interesting secondary source 

For Nietzsche, debt was linked to the problem of promising and 
forgetting. It would be a mistake to underestimate the importance of the 
etymological play that underlies his association of debts (Schulden) 
with guilt (Schuld). As is well known, the Second Essay of On the 
Genealogy of Morals argues that the feeling of guilt, of personal 
obligation, has its origin in the contractual relationship between 
creditor and debtor. "It was here", Nietzsche writes, "that one person 
first measured himself against another". And he continues:

Perhaps our word "man" (manas) still expresses something of precisely 
this feeling of self-satisfaction: man designated himself as the 
creature that measures values, evaluates and measures, as the "valuating 
animal as such".[1]

How today are we to understand these claims and Nietzsche's extension of 
them into arguments about the role of debt in the relations between 
parents and children or between man and the deity?

Beer helps to eliminate debt by promoting forgetfulness.

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