So what exactly is a complex number?

Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com
Tue Sep 4 01:56:17 EDT 2007


Paul Rubin wrote:
> Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> writes:
>> but the reals aren't. Clearly you *can* take the square root of all
>> real numbers, since a real number *is* also a complex number with a
>> zero imaginary component. They are mathematically equal and equivalent.
> 
> Ehhh, I let it slide before but since the above has been said a few
> times I thought I better mention that it's mathematically a bit bogus.
> We could say there is an embedding of the real numbers in the complex
> numbers (i.e. the set of complex numbers with Im z = 0).  But the
> usual mathematical definition of the reals (as a set in set theory) is
> a different set from the complex numbers, not a subset.  Also, for
> example, the derivative of a complex valued function means something
> considerably stronger than the derivative of a real valued function.
> The real valued function
> 
>   f(x) = { exp(-1/x**2, if x != 0,
>          { 0, if x = 0
> 
> for real x is infinitely differentiable at x=0 and all the derivatives
> are 0, which makes it sound like there's a Taylor series that
> converges to 0 everywhere in some neighborhood of x=0, which is
> obviously wrong since the function itself is nonzero when x!=0.  The
> discrepancy is because viewed as a complex valued function f(z), f is
> not differentiable at z=0 even once.
> 
> It's pretty normal for a real function f to have a first derivative at
> x, but no second derivative at x.  That can't happen with complex
> functions.  If f'(z) exists for some z, then f is analytic at z which
> means that all of f's derivatives exist at z and there is some
> neighborhood of z in which the Taylor series centered at z converges.

Much as I'd like to argue with that I can't, dammit :-)

regards
  Steve
-- 
Steve Holden        +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
Holden Web LLC/Ltd           http://www.holdenweb.com
Skype: holdenweb      http://del.icio.us/steve.holden
--------------- Asciimercial ------------------
Get on the web: Blog, lens and tag the Internet
Many services currently offer free registration
----------- Thank You for Reading -------------




More information about the Python-list mailing list