Try this

mensanator at aol.com mensanator at aol.com
Sun Sep 16 20:45:24 EDT 2007


On Sep 16, 6:25?pm, Steve Holden <st... at holdenweb.com> wrote:
> mensana... at aol.com wrote:
> > On Sep 16, 5:28?pm, John Machin <sjmac... at lexicon.net> wrote:
> >> On Sep 17, 7:54 am, "mensana... at aol.com" <mensana... at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 16, 2:22?pm, Steve Holden <st... at holdenweb.com> wrote:
> >>>> mensana... at aol.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 16, 1:10?pm, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr... at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:46:34 -0700, GeorgeRXZ <george... at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
> >>>>>>> Then Open the Notepad and type the following sentence, and save the
> >>>>>>> file and close the notepad. Now reopen the file and you will find out
> >>>>>>> that, Notepad is not able to save the following text line.
> >>>>>>> Well you are speed
> >>>>>>> This occurs not only with above sentence but any sentence that has
> >>>>>>> 4 3 3 5 (sequence of characters: Well=4 you=3 are=3 speed=5)
> >>>>>>         I tried. I also opened the saved file in SciTE...
> >>>>>> And the text WAS there...
> >>>>>>         It is Notepad that can not properly render what it,
> >>>>>> itself, saved.
> >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>type huh.txt
> >>>>> Well you are speed
> >>>>> Yes, file was saved correctly.
> >>>>> But reopening it shows 9 unprintable characters.
> >>>>> If I copy those to a new file (huh1.txt):
> >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>type huh1.txt
> >>>>> ?????????
> >>>>> But wait...the new file is 20 characters, not 9.
> >>>>> 09/16/2007  01:44 PM                18 huh.txt
> >>>>> 09/16/2007  01:54 PM                20 huh1.txt
> >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>dump huh.txt
> >>>>> huh.txt:
> >>>>> 00000000  5765 6c6c 2079 6f75 2061 7265 2073 7065 Well you are spe
> >>>>> 00000010  6564                                    ed
> >>>>> Here's what it's actually doing:
> >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\mensanator\My Documents>dump huh1.txt
> >>>>> huh1.txt:
> >>>>> 00000000  fffe 5765 6c6c 2079 6f75 2061 7265 2073 .~Well you are s
> >>>>> 00000010  7065 6564                               peed
> >>>> One word: Unicode.
> >>>> The "open" and "save" dialogs allow you to specify an encoding.
> >>> And the encoding specified was ANSI.
> >>>> If you
> >>>> specify Unicode the you will get what you see above.
> >>> And if you specify ANSI _before_ you click the file name,
> >>> the specification switches to Unicode and has to then
> >>> be manually switched back to ANSI.
> >>>> If you specify ANSI
> >>>> you will get the text you entered.
> >>> It's still a bug in the "open" dialog.
> >> It's more like a bug/feature in its encoding detector.
>
> > It is NOT a feature. If I save something as ANSI,
> > there is no excuse for it not to re-open in ANSI.
>
> >> I can get it to
> >> switch to Unicode only if there's an even number of characters AND the
> >> line is NOT terminated by CRLF -- add/remove one alpha character, or
> >> hit the enter key at the end of the line, and it won't detect it as
> >> Unicode when you open it again.
>
> >> You only get the BOM (0xfffe) if you are silly enough to save it while
> >> it's open in Unicode mode.
>
> > That was a test. I wasn't so stupid as to save
> > to the original file, but to make a copy.
>
> >>>> By the way, this has precisely what to do with Python?
> >>> I've been known to use Notepad to create Python
> >>> source code.
> >> Your source code would have to be trivially short to trigger the
> >> strange behaviour.
>
> > Makes you wonder what other edge cases aren't
> > handled properly.
>
> > Makes you wonder why Microsoft doesn't employ
> > professional programmers.
>
> Makes *me* wonder why you haven't got better things to do with your time.

It's Sunday.

>
> regards
>   Steve
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