Finally had to plonk google gorups.

Steve Holden steve at
Wed Apr 16 18:06:09 CEST 2008

Mike Driscoll wrote:
> On Apr 16, 10:09 am, Steve Holden <st... at> wrote:
>> Mike Driscoll wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards <gra... at> wrote:
>>>> This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam.  In order to try to
>>>> not tar both the benign google group users and the malignant
>>>> ones with the same brush, I've been trying to kill usenet spam
>>>> with subject patterns.  But that's not a battle you can win, so
>>>> I broke down and joined all the other people that just killfile
>>>> everything posted via google.groups.
>>>> AFAICT, if you're a google groups user your posts are not being
>>>> seen by many/most experienced (read "non-google-group") users.
>>>> This is mainly the fault of google who has refused to do
>>>> anything to stem the flood of span that's being sent via Google
>>>> Groups.
>>>> --
>>>> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! I would like to
>>>>                                   at               urinate in an OVULAR,
>>>>                                  porcelain pool --
>>> Yeah, I noticed that Google Groups has really sucked this week. I'm
>>> using the Google Groups Killfile for Greasemonkey now and it helps a
>>> lot. I like Google, but my loyalty only goes to far. This is a
>>> complete lack of customer service.
>> Unfortunately this means Google groups users are getting exactly the
>> service they are paying for.
>> regards
>>   Steve
>> --
>> Steve Holden        +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
>> Holden Web LLC    
> Steve,
> My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
> here. And I haven't been able to get NNTP to work from my home
> either.
> By applying this logic to Python and Linux (or any Open Source
> product), they shouldn't be used either (since I'm not paying for
> them).
I'm not saying people shouldn't use Google Groups. I'm saying that 
Google can "justify" providing customer "support" that lives somewhere 
between zero and extremely crappy by not charging for the service.

Without tunneling out to an NNTP proxy I don't see what other choice you 

Steve Holden        +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
Holden Web LLC    

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