programming toolbox

Mensanator mensanator at aol.com
Fri Aug 22 19:12:54 CEST 2008


On Aug 22, 11:17 am, "Krishnakant Mane" <hackin... at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi william,
> I am slightly more experienced in python than you (2 years to be presise).
> Before this I handled pritty heavy as in coding and as in usage
> projects in java.
> Untill I came into the wonderful and powerful world of free software,
> I programmed in c++ using borlands c++ compiler and IDE.
> But having all this experience (I still use c for some system
> programming), python has hooked me.
> I am so hooked up to python that I have explored all things that is
> possible in python to the extent of zope and python cgi.
> If you find that wxpython is any harder then try java swing.
> By the way have you looked at pygtk.  It is not just rich with widgets
> from gtk but also has great power and flexibility.
> And since you know wxpython, learning pygtk would be a snap.
> But as the saying goes, "one shoo does not fit all ".
> Obviously if you are thinking about system programming like writing
> device drivers etc, you will have to keep c in your programming
> thinkbox.
> And I find php much better comfortable and powerfull enough for web
> server programming/ scripting.
> I can only say one thing.
> If vb facinated you on windows then, python is a cross platform vb
> with power of c in many aspects.
> although as fellow hackers rightly said on this thread previously,
> there is no harm learning some languages like java which have long
> life.
> Keep away from rubbish like c# and similar .net based language.
> They are very short lived and lak many powerfull features.
> Happy hacking.
> Krishnakant.
>
> On 22/08/2008, Derek Martin <c... at pizzashack.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 08:17:27AM -0500, William Purcell wrote:
> >> I am still wondering if C++ would be worth learning and I think it could
> >> be
> >> answered by these three questions...
>
> >> 1. Are programs written in C++ better (in any form of the word) than
> >> programs written in python or vise versa or equal?

In some forms of "better", yes, in some forms, no, in others equal.

> >> 2. Is compiled better than interpreted?

If my program spends 99% of it's time in the gmpy module
(which is compiled C code) doing complicated arithmetic,
then there isn't much to be gained by compiling the remaining
1%, is there?

> >> 3. Is it necessary to know any more languages than python to be a
> >> respectable programmer, i.e. to be able to take care of most programming
> >> problems (text manipulation, gui programming, scientific computation, web
> >> stuff)?
>
> > I think the answer depends on what your goals are.  If you want to be
> > a well-rounded programmer, it's good to experience a number of
> > different languages, so you can see different approaches to different
> > problems.  Languages like Python tend to obscure to some degree how
> > things actually work inside the machine, whereas languages like C/C++
> > encourage that a bit more (though assembler much more so).
>
> > I think it's also a good idea to have more languages under your belt
> > if you want to be a professional programmer.  The more tools you have
> > in your toolbox, the more marketable you are...
>
> > If you only want to learn to program to solve your own problems, then
> > it doesn't really matter.  The only reason to learn additional
> > languages is if you find a case where what you've learned doesn't
> > solve your problem, or the solution is a lot harder than it should be.
>
> > --
> > Derek D. Martin
> >http://www.pizzashack.org/
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