"as" keyword woes

Mensanator mensanator at aol.com
Sun Dec 7 05:16:56 CET 2008

On Dec 6, 9:09�pm, Steven D'Aprano <st... at REMOVE-THIS-
cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:09:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 6:25 pm, Steven D'Aprano <st... at REMOVE-THIS-
> > cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:36:07 -0800, Mensanator wrote:
> >> > It was extremely simple for me to fix the sympy module where I
> >> > noticed it. I'm not saying it wasn't a problem, I'm saying it wasn't
> >> > BROKEN.
> >> If it wasn't broken, why did you need to fix it?
> > If my tire is flat, I have to fix it. But it may just need air, in which
> > case it's not broken.
> In which case it doesn't need *fixing*,

The state of the tire being flat has to be fixed, but not
necessarily the tire.

> it needs *refilling*. A flat tire
> isn't necessarily broken. It is broken if it has a puncture or a slow
> leak or has been ripped to shreds, but not if somebody merely let the air
> out. "Air comes out if you open the value" is within standard operating
> parameters and the tire is therefore working correctly.

Just as "as" producing a syntax error is working correctly.

> >> "Broken" means "not working", not "unfixable".
> > So, you're saying that Python is broken and will remain so forever,
> > since "as" will remain a keyword?
> I don't think that having "as" be a keyword is broken.

But WS does and you appear to be taking his side.

> I think the OP's
> code is broken for Python 2.6 or better,

So do I. Why are you arguing then? Simply to be pedantic
about the meaning of "broken"?

> and it will remain broken
> forever unless he fixes it or chooses to stay with 2.5.
> > Are you advocating that we all switch to Ruby?
> Why do you think that?

Because seem to be agreeing that the problem is with Python.
If that's not what you meant, it's not coming across that way.

> Do you imagine that Ruby has no features which are
> inconvenient to users, or backwards incompatibilities, or warts, or that
> it is impossible to write broken Ruby code?

Who knows what you believe if you're agrreing that Python is
permanently broken?

> --
> Steven

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