PHP Developer highly interested in Python (web development) with some open questions...

Bruno Desthuilliers bruno.42.desthuilliers at
Mon Feb 25 09:42:39 CET 2008

Diez B. Roggisch a écrit :
>> It's also some kind of a Rube Goldberg thingie...
>> If you're into web applications, better to have a look at Pylons or
>> Django IMHO.
> You are entitled to your opinion, but calling Zope a 
> Rube-Goldberg-machine is strong. To put it mildly. How about sharing 
> some of the reasons for this?

A few years experience with it - both using it 'barebones' and working 
with cmf-based apps like Plone and CPS. There are quite a few very 
interesting and/or clever things in Zope, and a lot to learn from it's 
strong and weak spots, but in it's current state, Zope2.x is layers 
above layers of ill-documented base classes and not-always-that-clever 
hacks. And Zope3 - which is indeed way cleaner - seems to be wanting to 
be more xmlish than any Java thingie ever.

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