None in comparison

[Terry Reedy]

Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:52:13 -0700, r.grimm wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I'm a little confused about None in comparison.
>>
>>>>> id ( None )
>> 3086100672L
>>>>> id ( 1 )
>> 134541104
>>>>> None < 1
>> True
>> I thought, the id of the object is the last comparison criterion.
> 
> Obviously that expectation is false.  The result of a comparison between
> different types, with no `__cmp__()` method that says otherwise, is a
> arbitrarily but consistent ordering by type.  The language doesn't even
> guarantee that it must be consistent in different runs of the same program
> in the same interpreter, just within one run.
> 
> So if you plan to rely on such implementation details, your program is
> broken.

And in 3.0 such arbitrary comparisons are gone.
 >>> None < 1
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "<pyshell#8>", line 1, in <module>
     None < 1
TypeError: unorderable types: NoneType() < int()