waltbrad waltbrad at
Sat Nov 29 22:49:51 CET 2008

On Nov 29, 1:39 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" <de... at> wrote:
> waltbrad schrieb:
> > PYTHONPATH is a concept I've never been able to get straight.  I can't
> > see the difference between this and just setting paths in the Windows
> > environment variables. So, for the longest time I just never worried
> > about it.
> > Now, I'm going through James Bennett's "Practical Django Projects" and
> > the issue raises it's head again.  We need to set up PYTHONPATH so
> > that python can find the directories for import statements. Can this
> > just be done through the environment variables?  Bennett says:
> > "On Windows, the setup is a bit more involved, largely because
> > Windows, unlike UNIX-based systems, isn’t as friendly to command-line–
> > based programs. In the Control Panel’s System area, under the Advanced
> > tab, you can set environment variables. The PYTHONPATH variable should
> > already be set up with the initial value Python provided, and you can
> > add new directories to it (directories in the list should be separated
> > with semicolons)."
> > But no PYTHONPATH variable shows up in my environment settings.  This
> > website:
> >
> > says you need to alter PYTHONPATH in the windows directory:
> > " Now that you've taught Windows to find the python executable in the
> > python install directory, you'll need to tell it how to find your
> > python scripts saved in folders other than that one; otherwise, your
> > python import statements will fail because they won't know where to
> > look for the custom modules you wish to import. Possible module
> > locations are specified by the PYTHONPATH environment variable, which
> > is stored in the Windows registry.
> > "To augment PYTHONPATH, run regedit and navigate to KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
> > \SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore and then select the folder for the python
> > version you wish to use. Inside this is a folder labelled PythonPath,
> > with one entry that specifies the paths where the default install
> > stores modules. Right-click on PythonPath and choose to create a new
> > key. You may want to name the key after the project whose module
> > locations it will specify; this way, you can easily compartmentalize
> > and track your path modifications.
> > "Your new key will have one string value entry, named (Default). Right-
> > click on it and modify its value data; this should be text in the same
> > format as the Path environment variable discussed above--absolute
> > directory paths, separated by semicolons. If one project will use
> > modules from several directories, add them all to this list. (Don't
> > bother attempting to add more string value entries to your new key, or
> > to the original PythonPath key, since they will be ignored.) Once
> > these new registry entries are in place, your scripts' import
> > statements should work fine."
> > I don't know when this was written, they refer to WIN 2000 but not
> > XP.  Is this correct?  Do I go into the registry and create a key and
> > type the path into it's string value?
> > I get pretty cautious about playing around with the registry.
> Both result in the same - an environment-variable being added.
> That no shows up when you do that for the first time isn't too much
> surprising - it doesn't exist, but you can create it.
> However, I would strongly recommend *not* relying on a PYTHONPATH-variable.
> Instead, go & install virtualenv. Then create a virtualenv for you
> django-project, and install django into it (however that is accomplished).
> Then, go & install your codebase for your app into it as well.
> Preferably as egg-link. Should be easy enough with a minimal
> like this:
> from setuptools import setup, find_packages
> setup(
>      name = "HelloWorld",
>      version = "0.1",
>      packages = find_packages(),
> )
> The advantage of this approach is that you can have several versions of
> your software installed in distinct VEs, for example for
> debugging/patching a released version, without having to meddle with the
>   PYTHONPATH everytime.
> The important thing to remember ist just to always either activate the
> proper VE, or use the full path to the python executable inside it.
> Diez

This just sounds like you're making everything even more complicated.
Am I going to have to uninstall Python and Django and erase everything
I've done so far to use this?

I'm not real great at python. I know a little bit, enough to follow
what's going on with django so far, but it's all uphill.

But it sounds like your solution is to stop everything and learn about
another package before I can continue learning about django.

I got on the web and tried to look for a tutorial on this package. I
sort of understand what is being said:  All this technology is
constantly being upgraded and the upgrades can break the code you've
already written and got working. So, I can see the importance of it.
It sort of copies over the code you are currently using in a project/
app and insulates it from upgrades.

But what is the learning curve on this? Being a windows user my
inferiority complex is aggravated everytime I have to translate what
is being done in a *nix system.

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