Odd Errors

Lawrence D'Oliveiro ldo at geek-central.gen.new_zealand
Thu Oct 2 05:03:12 EDT 2008


In message
<0a724214-0dea-43ff-947e-9d073581573c at u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Aaron "Castironpi" Brady wrote:

> On Oct 2, 12:52 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <l... at geek-
> central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>
>> In message <pan.2008.10.01.09.44... at REMOVE.THIS.cybersource.com.au>,
>> Steven
>>
>> D'Aprano wrote:
>> > On Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:14:49 +1300, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> >> In message
>> >> <1b1ed34d-f386-4389-a7f1-ce68be4e2... at k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Aaron "Castironpi" Brady wrote:
>>
>> >>> Do you ever want to scream from the rooftops, "'append' operates by
>> >>> side-effect!"?
>>
>> >> No. It's an effect, not a side-effect.
>>
>> > "Side-effect" has the technical meaning in functional languages of any
>> > change of state that isn't the creation and return of a function
>> > result.
>>
>> "Side" means that it happens as the by-product of returning a function
>> result. "<list>.append" isn't a function, it's a procedure. Hence the
>> modification of the list is the primary effect, not a side effect.
> 
> I was using the technical definition from functional languages ...

Which is where the use of "side" would make sense, given that functional
languages are full of functions, not procedures.



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