Advice for a replacement for plone.
nick at craig-wood.com
Tue Sep 30 23:30:05 CEST 2008
Ken Seehart <ken at seehart.com> wrote:
> I want a new python based CMS. ... One that won't keep me up all night ....
> I've been fooling around with zope and plone, and I like plone for some
> things, such as a repository for online project documentation. However
> for general-purpose web development it is too monolithic. Is there
> anything out there with the following properties?
> 0. Web page being developed is a typical small business home page (i.e.
> not a newspaper or a blog).
> 1. Page owner can edit pages on line with no expertise (plone does great
> 2. Main page does not look plone-like. For an example of a main page
> that does not look plone-like, see http://www.arbitrary.com/ Note the
> lack of CMS style navigation widgets.
> 3. Item 2 should be reachable with nearly no effort (plone fails utterly
> 4. Target viewer (not the owner), should /not/ see something that looks
> at all like a CMS system, but rather see exactly what the page owner
> wants the page to look like.
> 5. Page owner should be able to view and navigate the tree of contents,
> and select pages to edit with a wysiwyg editor (plone does great here)...
> 6. ... But the target viewer should not see this tree. See items 2 and 4.
> 7. Potential to add python scripted pages of various kinds.
> <philosophy> There are a couple different design approaches to making a
> development environment. You can let the developer start with nothing,
> and provide the developer with tools to create something (e.g. zope,
> most plain text editors), or you can start with a finished result and
> let the developer rip out and discard what is not desired (e.g. plone).
> I often prefer to start with nothing. It's a natural starting point.
> Note that systems that are based on starting with nothing can provide
> the benefits of starting with something by providing templates and such.
> I would love to see a system that would give me an editable Hello World
> page in under 5 minutes. Hello World would be a page consisting of
> nothing but the words "hello world" (no tools, no navigation bar, and
> certainly no CMS navigation stuff) in a url such as
> www.myhelloworldwebsite.com/hello and a different url to edit the page,
> such as www.myhelloworldwebsite.com/hello/edit or
Django + flatpages maybe? Coming from the starting from nothing
approach. There are links to some sites built with it in the docs
A bit more of a learning curve but you'll definitely be in charge.
Somebody used to Django could set up a flatpages site in 5 minutes
probably! It will take you a couple of hours the first time though.
Nick Craig-Wood <nick at craig-wood.com> -- http://www.craig-wood.com/nick
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