python for loop

Arnaud Delobelle arnodel at
Wed Apr 1 23:32:37 CEST 2009

Lada Kugis <lada.kugis at> writes:

> I'm coming from fortran and c background so I'm certainly biased by
> them. But if you could explain one thing to me:
> in fortran for example:
> for i=1,n
> goes from 1,2,3,4,...,n
> in python for example:
> for i in range(1,n)
> goes from 1,2,3,4,...,n-1
> (that is, it goes from 1 up to, but not including n)
> Why is that so ? What were the reasons for that "not including" part ?
> It troubles me greatly, and I cannot see it's advantages over the
> "standard" "up to and including" n.
> Best regards
> Lada

Luckily Python allows you to create your own indexing on lists:

def dec(i):
    if isinstance(i, slice):
        return slice(dec(i.start), dec(i.stop), i.step)
    elif i is None or i < 0:
        return i
        return i - 1

defop = """
def __%sitem__(s,i,*r): 
    val = list.__%sitem__(s,dec(i),*r)
    if isinstance(i, slice): val = List1(val)
    return val
def __%sslice__(s,i,j,*r):
    return List1(list.__%sslice__(s,dec(i),dec(j),*r))

class List1(list):
    for op in 'del', 'get', 'set':
        exec defop % (op, op, op, op)
    def index(self, x):
        return list.index(self, x) + 1
    def insert(self, i, x):
        list.insert(self, dec(i), x)
    def pop(self, i=None):
        return list.pop() if i is None else list.pop(dec(i))
    for op in 'add', 'mul', 'radd', 'rmul':
        exec "def __%s__(*r): return List1(list.__%s__(*r))" % (op, op)

l1 = List1(range(10))
l2 = List1("Python rules")

I'll let you play with l1 and l2.


PS.  What day is it again?

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