Help understanding the decisions *behind* python?

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Sun Aug 2 04:47:59 CEST 2009

On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:19:43 -0700, sturlamolden wrote:

>> More than one person here has
>> observed that the time to learn to program Pythonically is inversely
>> proportional to their experience in Java.
> I believe it is opposite. The longer the Java experience, the longer
> it takes to program pythonically. The correlation is not inverse. In
> particular, programmers accustomed to Java or C++ seem to use for-
> loops awfully lot. And when they do, they always loop over a sequence
> of integers, and use these as array indices.

It would be more accurate to say that of programmers who are *only*
accustomed to Java or C++. I've been using C for 80-90% of my code for 25
years, and I wouldn't normally loop over the indices. But then the other
10-20% is Lisp, Tcl, Haskell, PostScript and, more recently, Python.

OTOH, using a "for" loop when you could use a generator means less work
when you need to make a minor change and a generator is no longer

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