Need help with Python scoping rules
bruno.42.desthuilliers at websiteburo.invalid
Thu Aug 27 10:07:46 CEST 2009
Ulrich Eckhardt a écrit :
> Now, what actually causes problems is that 'fact_rec' is not universally
> accessible until class 'Demo' is fully defined, but you need this in order
> to fully define it. Here comes a drawback of the dynamic nature of Python,
> that the declaration phase (compiling) is not separate from the execution.
It is. You can manually compile a module, remove the source .py and
still import (or execute) the compiled .pyc.
The "problem" here is not with compilation, but with the fact that
'class' (and 'def') statements are *executable* statements. IOW, the
class statement is executed when encountered, that is, usually (most
class statements being top-level statements), when the module is first
> I fully agree that this case is rather vexing to my (and obviously your)
> biased brain. I wouldn't call this a bug before fully understanding why
> e.g. you can not access a class before its definition is finished.
Nor why it's a GoodThing(tm) for quite a lot of use case - while the
OP's problem is in the splitting-hairs category - only a problem if yoçu
insist in imposing your views on the language instead of learning how to
> Suggestion: someone mentioned that you should make the function a normal
Someone (Diez Roggisch IIRC) also mentionned a simple solution that
mostly fulfills the OP's desires: use a nested function.
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