Python docs disappointing - group effort to hire writers?
Ethan Furman
ethan at stoneleaf.us
Mon Aug 10 12:13:34 EDT 2009
Kee Nethery wrote:
> As someone trying to learn the language I want to say that the tone on
> this list towards people who are trying to learn Python feels like it
> has become anti-newbies.
>
> Learning a new language is difficult enough without seeing other
> newbies getting shamed for not knowing everything there is to know
> about Python before asking their questions.
>
> For example, the guy who was looking for Python sample code for the
> Google Map API, calling him a troll was harsh. Suggesting he broach the
> question to Google was a reasonable answer. By the same token, his
> asking this list about the missing Python examples seems reasonable
> also. Seems to me that people on a Python list might have some
> background knowledge or even samples of the Google Python code that was
> no longer on the Google web site.
>
> There seems to be a general consensus among the newbies that other
> languages have a user contributions resource tied to the main official
> docs to allow newbies to teach each other what they have learned. The
> desire is for python.org to have the same kind of support resource so
> that us newbies can self support each other.
>
> Kee Nethery
As someone who is (hopefully!) leaving newbieness I can say I have had
no problem with the helpfullness of this list. I will also say that
before I ever posted any questions I had devoured Dive Into Python and
How To Think Like a Computer Scientist Using Python (both excellent),
and I try to put as much detail into my questions as I can so nobody has
to guess what I'm trying to do.
As someone who relies heavily on the docs I will also say that the idea
of giving the ability to modify the official documentation to somebody
who is /learning/ the language is, quite frankly, terrifying. I have no
issues with a seperate system, some of which have been suggested, but
good reference documentation is crucial. If you find examples lacking,
there are plenty of web-sites, or even (dare I say it?) actual hard-copy
books! ;) My bookshelf currently has Learning Python, Programming
Python, Python Cookbook, Python Programming on Win32, and Regular
Expressions. All great books, and not too pricey if you can get them used.
My $0.02.
~Ethan~
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