Need help with Python scoping rules
Bruno Desthuilliers
bruno.42.desthuilliers at websiteburo.invalid
Fri Aug 28 04:41:51 EDT 2009
kj a écrit :
> In <4a967b2f$0$19301$426a74cc at news.free.fr> Bruno Desthuilliers <bruno.42.desthuilliers at websiteburo.invalid> writes:
>
>> The only thing one is entitled to expect when learning a new language is
>> that the language's implementation follows the language specs.
>
> In fact, the official docs, when they discuss scopes, are off to
> a bad start:
>
> Names refer to objects. Names are introduced by name binding
> operations. Each occurrence of a name in the program text refers
> to the binding of that name established in the innermost function
> block containing the use.
>
> The first paragraph implies that binding can only occur within
> functions, which is either incorrect, or presupposes a definition
> of "function" that is not what most programmers would recognize.
Indeed, and you're right to point it. I strongly suggest you submit a
ticket to the doc maintainers.
> In general, I found the docs very unclear on the subject of scoping.
> PEP 227 is much better, but I wouldn't have thought of it as "the
> specs".
Well, here again, it sure would help to make clear that peps (and
release specific "what's new") *are* part of the doc. But for sure, what
used to be a simple and clear reference is now a bit of a mess, despite
the hard work of the doc team. Side-effect of the rapid growth of the
language I guess...
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