what IDE is the best to write python?

Stef Mientki stef.mientki at gmail.com
Sun Feb 1 15:33:51 CET 2009


thanks Matthew,
for the extended answer
and the great link,
I'm going to study that carefully.

cheers,
Stef


MattBD wrote:
> On Feb 1, 12:19 pm, Stef Mientki <stef.mien... at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>>> IMHO, scripting languages like Python are generally better suited to
>>> working with a text editor than an IDE.
>>>       
>> I don't understand that, because in my opinion yields
>>   IDE = texteditor + (much) more
>> please could you explain (as I'm very interested in user interfaces in
>> general )
>>
>> cheers,
>> Stef
>>     
>
> Obviously, this is just my opinion. The great debate over which is
> better, an IDE or text editor, has been going on for years, and no
> doubt plenty of other people will disagree.
>
> Really it depends what you are doing. Some languages are very tightly
> integrated with an IDE, such as MS Visual C#, and as far as I can see
> it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible to use a text
> editor with that language. If you only use one language and that has
> an IDE you like, there's nothing wrong with sticking with that.
>
> IDE's are often (but not always) designed for a specific language.
> Text editors are more flexible and will generally work well with
> virtually any language. You may lose a little in terms of language-
> specific functionality such as autocompletion and fancy graphical
> tools, but you gain in flexibility because the one text editor will
> work well with many languages, so you can write programs in C, Perl,
> Python, Ruby, or whatever takes your fancy, and still use the same
> tools you're used to, which I'd argue makes you more productive as
> you're working within a familiar environment. However, there are IDE's
> which support multiple languages, such as Eclipse.
>
> Also, I'm strongly of the opinion that using a text editor when you
> get started is the way to go. You're more likely to take in every last
> detail of something if you type out the commands in detail rather than
> using autocompletion. Also, an IDE can add an unnecessary level of
> complication - as well as learning a language you have to learn an
> IDE, which can be extremely complex. So it can be simpler to just use
> a text editor, which is often simpler.
>
> Conversely, IDE's can be better for designing interfaces as they
> generally allow you to design them in a way that's more intuitive to
> most people.
>
> It's not exactly true to say that an IDE = text editor + much more.
> It's more about the nature of the features. A modern programmer's text
> editor such as Vim is an extremely powerful and flexible piece of
> software. I've just barely started to scratch the surface of what Vim
> can do and I learn something new virtually every time I use it.
> Although technically it can mean you have to do more typing than you
> would with an IDE, it also makes it a lot faster to type the text you
> put in.
>
> An IDE will roll everything you need into one package, including the
> compiler/interpreter, editor and debugger. A text editor does the text
> editing only, but in practice most of them allow you to access the
> command line from within the text editor (in Vim you just enter :!
> followed by the command you want to run), so you can use other tools
> from within the editor. I do most of my coding in Linux, so I would
> write a program in Vim, save it, then enter something like :!python
> example.py to run it.
>
> At the end of the day it's personal taste. I've tinkered with a few
> IDE's but I find text editors work better for me at the end of the
> day, and Vim in particular is one that really works well for me. It
> does depend on what you're doing. For larger projects sometimes a
> dedicated IDE is better, but most decent text editors can do a lot of
> the same things that an IDE can. It just requires a different
> approach.
>
> I'd recommend you check out this article:
> http://osteele.com/archives/2004/11/ides
> That gives a good insight into the whole IDE's vs text editors thing.
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