"Super()" confusion

Michele Simionato michele.simionato at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 06:26:20 CET 2009


On Feb 10, 4:29 am, "Gabriel Genellina"
> AFAIK, all facts appearing in said article are still true (except for 3.x  
> which uses a shorter form). If super usage had been clearly documented in  
> the first place, this had not happened.
> Perhaps you could point us to some resource explaining how is super  
> supposed to be used correctly?
> And of those giving explanations in python-dev, nobody cared to add a  
> single word to the Python documentation for years.
>
> > Honestly, I don't understand how this thing got so much out of
> > control. If anyone starts an intelligent question or remark about
> > super, this essay is thrown in no matter what. Anyone can explain why?
>
> Because for a very loooooong time (seven years, 2001-2008) super was  
> almost undocumented. The Library Reference -before release 2.6- only had a  
> short paragraph, the online documentation referred (and still does) to the  
> original essay by Guido introducing descriptors, which is inaccurate and  
> outdated, and then the "... harmful" article was the only source of  
> information available.

All right. This is way I made the effort of writing a comprehensive
collection of all the tricky points about super
I knew:

http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=236275
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=236278
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=237121

Also see this thread on python-dev about the issue of super
documentation: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/dev/673833


                 Michele Simionato



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