How does one get from "ImportError: DLL load failed:..." to a culprit .dll and symbol?

Chris Cormie ccormie at
Tue Feb 24 04:54:15 CET 2009

Mark Hammond wrote:
> On 23/02/2009 11:41 PM, Chris Cormie wrote:
>>> If that not-very-technical description [all I've ever needed] doesn't
>>> help, you'll need to read the DW help file (HTFF1K) or wait till
>>> someone who knows what they are doing comes along :-)
>> LOL, I am that person :p
> LOL sounds right!
>> How do you get *Python* to tell you the dll and the problem symbol? Not
>> external tools, Python. Python at a low level is calling LoadLibrary and
>> GetProcAddress to resolve symbols and the call fails.
> It is the LoadLibrary that is failing; it should be obvious that if it 
> was a simple GetProcAddress that was failing, Python would simply throw 
> an exception rather than displaying the ugly dialog box you see.
> The problem is that some *other* DLL in the chain of dependencies is 
> failing to load; please re-adjust your perceptions of your own knowledge 
> and re-read John's initial response - if you follow his instructions 
> that should all become quite obvious.
> Mark

I think an example would help rather than me jabbering on about 
LoadLibary/GetProcAddress .

It really is a case of Python loads module x depending on DLL y that is 
missing symbol z, yet the error message is just "load x failed" when in 
theory it could be "load x failed: y doesn't have z".

However I think I am confusing people (and myself!) by assuming it's 
always as explicit as a LoadLibary/GetProcAddress sequence that is 
failing when people see this error.

Let me explain by giving the specific example case I have to hand.
I originally got on to this class of opaque runtime errors caused by 
missing symbols through building the pycURL extension on MinGW. As of 
Python 2.6, Python links against the new msvcr90.dll C Runtime. MinGW 
maintains a set of .a files for system DLLs including the C Runtime. 
When building pycURL naturally I want to link against libmsvcr90.a so 
Python 2.6 and pycURL are using the same C Runtime. Problem was, MinGW's 
  .a was wrong: it exports symbols that msvcr90.dll does not in fact 
possess. Building pycURL with the faulty libmsvcr90.a causes the opaque 
error message: "ImportError: DLL load failed"

I think Gabriel's got the part of the answer: she said  "it isn't Python 
who's trying to load the symbol - the *only* symbol that Python attempts 
to import itself is "initFOO" from FOO.pyd"

So my next question is: given the above missing-symbol problem, is the 
system able/willing to report the bad symbol reference in the .pyd when 
Python attempts to import initFOO?


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