python is great
benjamin.kaplan at case.edu
Tue Jan 6 21:36:44 CET 2009
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Joe Strout <joe at strout.net> wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On the Mac in particular, if you want
>>> your app to run on any PowerPC or Intel machine runing 10.4 or later,
>>> and you're using anything not in the standard framework (such as
>>> MySQLdb), it's a bit of a nightmare.
>> You're looking for py2app:
> No, I'm *using* py2app. I've been trying to use it for a couple of weeks
> now, with the generous help of such people as Robin Dunn, and I still don't
> have it quite working properly. (I'd be happy to send you my notes on what
> was required to get as far as I've gotten, but it's several pages, a bit
> long to post here.)
> (py2exe works a little more easily, thank goodness.)
> So I would say that Python as a language is great, and its standard
>>> framework is great. But its (many) IDEs are pretty poor, and the
>>> process of building a polished, packaged app is abysmal.
>> It's certainly work, but that's always the case for nicely polished
>> apps :-)
> In Python, yes. :) Not in all environments.
> For packaging, you can choose from a multitude of installer builders -
>> none of which are really Python specific.
> I'm not even talking about that level of packaging -- I'm just talking
> about making something that appears to the user like a normal executable,
> which they can double-click on their system and have it actually run, rather
> than aborting with something unhelpful like "No module named MySQLdb".
> And there are
>>> some things (such as Flash-style web applets) that you still can't do at
>>> all in Python, even after all these years.
>> You're looking for Silverlight:
> Maybe. I'm not a big fan of anything so Microsoftian, but I'll admit that
> this does mostly fit the bill I described above (or has the potential to,
If your only problem with Silverlight is Microsoft, there is an open source
.NET implementation called Mono (www.mono-project.com) and an open source
Silverlight plugin, Moonlight (http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/).
> - Joe
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