Does Python really follow its philosophy of "Readability counts"?

Bruno Desthuilliers bdesth.quelquechose at
Mon Jan 12 21:06:46 CET 2009

Paul Rubin a écrit :
> Carl Banks <pavlovevidence at> writes:
>>> The criticism is very valid.  Some languages do support immutable
>>> variables (e.g. "final" declarations in Java, "const" in C++, or
>>> universal immutability in pure functional languages) and they do so
>>> precisely for the purpose of taming the chaos of uncontrolled
>>> mutation.  It would be great if Python also supported immutability.
>> I don't think what you said (which is fine) makes his criticism valid,
>> unless you also suggest that all objects should be immutable.
> It would be enough to have a way to make specific objects and instance
> attributes immutable.
>> If any objects are mutable, you have to be prepared for objects to
>> mutated outside the initializer.
> Sure, but why have mutable objects all over the place?  And, why
> always have attributes visible at all, outside the class definition?
> The approach in C++ and Java is to have public and private instance
> variables, where the private ones are visible only in the class methods.

Why on earth are you using Python if you don't like the way it work ???

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