pep-8 vs. external interfaces?

Aahz aahz at
Sat Jan 17 15:33:35 CET 2009

In article <27c6b149-3a5f-478d-a6fc-da87a66b9d4c at>,
Carl Banks  <pavlovevidence at> wrote:
>On Jan 4, 1:47=A0pm, Roy Smith <r... at> wrote:
>> Or, I could draw a line in the sand and say, "If it's a protocol
>> primitive, it stays as written. =A0Otherwise, it's pep-8". =A0That's a
>> little uglier because it's not always obvious to the user exactly
>> which names are protocol primitives and which are higher-level
>> operations.
>So the question becomes, "Why are you mixing protocol primitives and
>high-level operations in the same namespace?"  Because that's not
>normally a well-advised thing to do.
>1. If you answered, "I shouldn't be", you should separate them and use
>camel case for the protocol primitives.
>2. If you answered, "I'm including protocol primitive functions
>alongside high-level operations because conceptually they are the
>same, it's just that some functions happen to map directly to the
>underlying protocol", you should follow PEP-8, because by doing that
>you've implicity raised the protocol primitive functions to high-level
>3. If you answered, "Protocol primitives are in the same namespace for
>convenience, but high-level users shouldn't use them", then you should
>use camel case for the protocol primitives but prepend an underscore.
>4. If you answered, "I include those functions in the same namespace
>because I am following the example of other language bindings in Perl,
>Java, Ruby, etc.,", then figure out whether it's important to be
>consistent with Perl, Java, Ruby, etc., and if so, do whatever they
>did.  If not, see #1.

This deserves to be recorded on a web page somewhere -- can you stick it
on the wiki?  (I got laid off two weeks ago, so if you're too busy,
would you like me to do it?)
Aahz (aahz at           <*>

"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
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