Where does setuptools live?

Inky 788 inky788 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 18:44:34 CEST 2009

On Jul 10, 10:26 am, Chris Withers <ch... at simplistix.co.uk> wrote:
> Inky 788 wrote:
> > Currently, distutils itself is being actively developed. More info
> > about this here:http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/
> > My (albeit anonymous) advice is: use distutils. Manually download
> > packages as-needed from PyPI and install manually using standard
> > distutils.
> No thanks. I'm a big fan of buildout. Making it possible for packages to
> specify their dependencies is a big win...

Yup, it's a big win. But package installation for Python is a bit of a
mess right now. Neither setuptools nor buildout (nor pip for that
matter) are a standard part of Python. It's rather silly that although
Python is a batteries-included language, and it's mid-2009, and Python
3.1 has been released, that Python *still* doesn't have a standard
built-in way to handle package installation (including dependencies
and uninstallation).

My guess is that once distutils finishes getting spruced up, some
intrepid hacker is going to:

* take the best parts of pip and the best parts of setuptools (I don't
know anything about buildout),

* stir vigorously,

* ruthlessly remove the excess pieces,

* write good documentation for it,

* throw the result up on github/launchpad/bitbucket/whatever,

and then *that's* what everyone's going to start using and which will
eventually make it into the Python std lib.

But that's just my anon 2 cents.

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