non-owning references?
Terry Reedy
tjreedy at udel.edu
Fri Jul 24 16:57:13 EDT 2009
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:55:45 +0200, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
>
>> The term "variable" is used in the Python
>> language reference and elsewhere, and is quite compatible with how other
>> popular languages (Java, PHP, Lisp, ...) use it. Please stop
>> complaining about valid terminology; it is not helpful.
>
> No, the use of the single term "variable" to describe two distinct
> program models is not helpful. Whether other languages muddy the water
> between memory-location based variables and name-binding is irrelevant to
> whether we should do so. And quite a few of us are disappointed that the
> Python language reference should confuse the issue by using misleading
> terminology.
>
> Unfortunately, the use of "variable" is so ingrained, and so simple
> compared to name binding terminology, that I fear we'll never eradicate
> it. I know sometimes I use it myself, but always with a little shiver of
> shame that I'm misusing terminology.
Some years ago, I read a claim that 'variable' has about 15 shades of
meaning in math (some referring to non-variable constants), making it
probably the most overloaded term in math. I am trying to mostly avoid
it in the book I am writing.
tjr
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