Function/method returning list of chars in string?

Robert Kern robert.kern at gmail.com
Tue Jun 9 22:20:56 CEST 2009


On 2009-06-09 14:43, Terry Reedy wrote:
> jon vs. python wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't realize that you already proposed list comprehension.
>>
>>
>> There is some kind of asymmetry in several areas.I guess that's
>> somehow related to this post: http://www.zedshaw.com/blog/2009-05-29.html
>
> The premise of this post by Zed the Insightful is that Python developers
> are like a homegenous bunch of brain-damaged people. Instead, they are a
> heterogenous group of volunteers, with rotating membership, at least
> some of whom are aware of the various issues he mentions, but who are
> constrained by both time limits and back compatibility.
>
> The constraint of back compatibility was loosened for 3.0. What
> contribution did Zed Shaw make toward improving the deficiencies he
> noted when he had a chance? I do not remember any.
>
> His excuse: "If I had the time I would try to fix this stuff, but I
> realize that none of this will be fixed until there’s a cultural shift
> in Python away from this habit of Neglect." This bogus excuse is Neglect
> on his part. I strongly suspect, based on experience with other
> Professional Critics / Ignored Prophets like him, that efforts to help
> him contribute would be ignored or rejected.
>
> Python and the stdlib is all open source. If he were to submit a patch,
> and it were ignored or rejected for whatever reason, he could still
> release it and register it on PyPI. I just checked and NONE of the 6710
> submissions are his.
>
> "There’s many more places where this kind of neglect is found, but these
> days I just accept it and move on unless I seriously get pissed off. The
> last tool I did this to was argparse and optparse which I replaced with
> a much nicer system in Lamson."
>
> Perhaps someday he will share his "improved" version and let others
> judge and possibly use it.

To be fair:

   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zapps/
   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/lamson/
   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/vellum/
   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/idiopidae

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
  that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
  an underlying truth."
   -- Umberto Eco




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