Exceptions and Object Destruction (was: Problem with apsw and garbage collection)
charles at declareSub.com
Wed Jun 17 07:49:52 EDT 2009
On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo at geek-central.gen.new_zealand> writes:
>>> Reference counting is an implementation detail used by CPython but
>>> [implementations built on runtimes designed for corporate-herd-
>>> languages, like] IronPython or Jython.
>> I rest my case.
> You're really being pretty ignorant. I don't know of any serious Lisp
> system that uses reference counting, both for performance reasons and
> to make sure cyclic structures are reclaimed properly. Lisp is
> certainly not a corporate herd language.
> Even CPython doesn't rely completely on reference counting (it has a
> fallback gc for cyclic garbage). Python introduced the "with"
> statement to get away from the kludgy CPython programmer practice of
> opening files and relying on the file being closed when the last
> reference went out of scope.
I'm curious as you why you consider this practice to be kludgy; my
experience with RAII is pretty good.
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