why cannot assign to function call
Aahz
aahz at pythoncraft.com
Sat Mar 14 19:52:41 EDT 2009
In article <mailman.952.1235850376.11746.python-list at python.org>,
<rdmurray at bitdance.com> wrote:
>
>I think this is the key point. I am an experienced Python programmer,
>and I had to think long and hard about what you were saying, Mark, in
>order to understand how it applied to Python. I think this means that
>your model and/or your level of abstraction is not "natural" when trying
>to understand Python programs, and I think I may have figured out why.
Good job! I'll just add one little bit to your excellent rebuttal:
>Assignment in Python changes a mapping (mutates a namespace object). In
>this case the mapping being changed is the local function's namespace
>mapping. We can't affect the caller's namespace mapping, because (in
>this function) we don't have access to the caller's namespace object.
>So I would diagram it like this:
>
> y (in global env.) -----> 'virgin'
>
> x (in function 'test') ----> 'clobbered'
Although you later make clear that this model works well with lists, too,
I personally find it easier to separate the concept of "name" (which is
strictly the set of legal Python identifiers) with the more general
concept of "target". Consider this:
>>> L = [1, 2, 3]
>>> L[1:1] = ['foo', 'bar']
What do you call ``L[1:1]``? I call that a target (and in fact, so do
the Python docs).
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