python simply not scaleable enough for google?
Robert Brown
bbrown at speakeasy.net
Fri Nov 13 21:13:04 EST 2009
J Kenneth King <james at agentultra.com> writes:
> mcherm <mcherm at gmail.com> writes:
>> I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the reasons why Python
>> is slow. Most of the slowness does NOT come from poor implementations: the
>> CPython implementation is extremely well-optimized; the Jython and Iron
>> Python implementations use best-in-the-world JIT runtimes. Most of the
>> speed issues come from fundamental features of the LANGUAGE itself, mostly
>> ways in which it is highly dynamic.
>>
>> -- Michael Chermside
> You might be right for the wrong reasons in a way. Python isn't slow
> because it's a dynamic language. All the lookups you're citing are highly
> optimized hash lookups. It executes really fast.
Sorry, but Michael is right for the right reason. Python the *language* is
slow because it's "too dynamic". All those hash table lookups are unnecessary
in some other dynamic languages and they slow down Python. A fast
implementation is going to have to be very clever about memoizing method
lookups and invalidating assumptions when methods are dynamically redefined.
> As an implementation though, the sky really is the limit and Python is
> only getting started.
Yes, but Python is starting in the basement.
bob
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