Newbie advice

CSharpner csharpner at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 15:05:00 CET 2009


On Oct 29, 3:00 am, alex23 <wuwe... at gmail.com> wrote:
> CSharpner <csharp... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here's what I /want/ to do, but don't know where to begin:
>
> Welcome to the fun :)
>
> > - Write web services in Python (I've done plenty of this in .NET,
> > BTW).
>
> I'm a big fan of CherryPy:http://www.cherrypy.org/
>
> It's very straightforward and easy to get into.
>
> > - Write plain DLLs (is that even an option in Python (I told you I was
> > a newb to Python, didn't I? :))
>
> I'd recommend Cython:http://www.cython.org/
>
> It allows you to write dlls in (a subset of) Python that are converted
> to and compiled in C.
>
> > - Write a web app (HTML front end, Python web services called from
> > JavaScript).
> > - Write a plain old web app with Python (no web services or Ajax, just
> > plain HTML & Python).
>
> Again, CherryPy, or depending on your needs one of the many, many web
> frameworks; I'm partial to Turbogears, but Django seems to be the most
> popular.
>
> For a good overview of what's out there:http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks
>
> > - Is it possible to create a Windows client desktop GUI app with
> > Python?  How?  How 'bout a Linux GUI app?
>
> Python includes a wrapper around Tcl/Tk, which many consider to be
> kinda ugly by modern standards, but is cross platform and part of the
> stdlib (it's not always included with *nix distros by default but then
> it's a lot easier to make that happen during install under most
> package managers). PyQT, PyGtk and wxPython all have their active
> proponents.
>
> There are plenty of GUI libs out there:http://wiki.python.org/moin/GuiProgramming
>
> However, if you're already comfortable with HTML/CSS, I'd recommend
> taking a look at Pyjamas, which started as a port of the Google Web
> Toolkit, taking Python code and compiling it into javascript. The
> associated project, Pyjamas-Desktop, is a webkit-based desktop client/
> widget set; so ideally you only have to write one UI and it'll run
> both on the web & the desktop.
>
> Pyjamas:http://pyjs.org/
> Pyjamas-Desktop:http://pyjd.sourceforge.net/
>
> > And finally, I'm not completely committed to using Windows to host my
> > development either.  I'm willing to use Linux too (but would prefer
> > Windows... at least to get started, until I'm comfortable enough with
> > Python).
>
> Google App Engine allows you to host our app on Google servers, with a
> very generous free quota:http://code.google.com/appengine/
>
> It supports Django and several other of the web frameworks. It's worth
> noting that it uses the non-relational BigTable at the backend, which
> seems to cause a lot of grief to relationally-trained minds :)
>
> Hopefully something in here is enlightening :)

Thanks!  Lots of good stuff in there.  I think that's plenty to get me
started.



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