Why is there no platform independent way of clearing a terminal?

Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kaplan at case.edu
Mon Aug 2 17:41:20 CEST 2010


On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> On 01/08/2010 12:10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message<mailman.1383.1280649150.1673.python-list at python.org>, Mark
>> Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>  On 01/08/2010 08:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>  In message<mailman.1382.1280646210.1673.python-list at python.org>, Mark
>>>> Lawrence wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 01/08/2010 07:50, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  In message<mailman.1381.1280643817.1673.python-list at python.org>, Mark
>>>>>> Lawrence wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Personally I find double clicking on an msi file rather easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Easier than apt-get dist-upgrade?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry but I only do English, could you please translate. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I run Debian Unstable, which has new goodies coming out on a weekly
>>>> basis. The last time I checked for updates, there were over 500 packages
>>>> I had installed for which updates were available. It only took a command
>>>> like the above to upgrade them all.
>>>>
>>>> How many .msi files would you have to click on to achieve the Windows
>>>> equivalent?
>>>>
>>>
>>> ... I simply couldn't cope with over 500 installed packages.
>>>
>>
>> Precisely my point. Go back to playing with your .msi toys.
>>
>> Oh, and<http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-06-24/>.
>>
>
> Repeating what was obviously deliberately snipped.
>
> "No idea, but your mental capacity is clearly infinitely higher than mine,
> as I simply couldn't cope with over 500 installed packages.  What do they
> all do, make your lunch and fetch the beer from the fridge amongst other
> things?"
>
> How does any user or an admin cope with 500 packages?  Can Python help
> here, assume an eight hour working day?
>
> c:\Python31\Lib>python
> Python 3.1.2 (r312:79149, Mar 21 2010, 00:41:52) [MSC v.1500 32 bit
> (Intel)] on win32
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> 8*60*60/500
> 57.6
>
> So every working day you have 57.6 seconds to use each package. Strangely I
> don't think anyone will get too much done.  Am I in cloud cuckoo land or are
> you?
>
>
You seem to be mistaken as to what a "package" is.

Python :
* python
* python-minimal
* python2.6
* libbz2
* libc6
* libdb4.8
* libncursesw5
* libreadline6
* mime-support
* python2.6-minimal
* libssl0.9.8
* zlib1g
* debconf
* perl-base
* dpkg
* coreutils
* lzma
* libacl1
* libattr1
* libselinux1
* libgcc1
* libstdc++6
* gcc-4.4-base
* libncurses5
* readline-common

So these are the packages needed just to run Python in Ubuntu. It doesn't
include the packages required for the kernel, the desktop environment, the
window manager, the terminal, and whatever else you want running. In my
fairly clean Ubuntu VM (I use it almost exclusively for testing), I have
close to 1500 packages installed.






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