Dreaming of new generation IDE

Adam Tauno Williams awilliam at opengroupware.us
Wed Feb 3 19:57:51 CET 2010

On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 10:05 -0800, Phlip wrote:
> On Feb 3, 3:10 am, Vladimir Ignatov <kmis... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Finally I develop a feeling that strong instrumentation / tools can
> > bring us the best of two worlds. That I am dreaming on is an absolute
> > new type/class of IDE suitable for Python and potentially for other
> > dynamic-type languages. Instead of current text-oriented IDEs, it
> > should be a database-centric and resemble current CAD systems instead
> > of being just "fancy text editor". Source text should be an output
> > product of that CAD and not a "source material" itself.
> That's fine so long as I can also treat the source as source, at need.
> You may have just reinvented Smalltalk's Squeak editor (reputedly the
> testbed for all of modern GUIs...).
> Current editors suck because they can't see into the code and browse
> it - unless it's so statically typed it's painful.

?  I edit Python in MonoDevelop  2.2;  and I can browse my file,
classes, etc...  So I don't know what you mean by "can't see into the
code".  It works pretty well.

Of course it can't tell that I've set x = {an integer}, as that only
happens at runtime.

> That's why I wrote this:
> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/05/dynamic_languages_vs_editors.html

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