Modifying Class Object

Steven D'Aprano steve at
Fri Feb 12 23:44:52 CET 2010

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:26:24 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:

> Yes, I do count this as a personal attack and flaming.
> The litmus test for that is that it says something very negative about
> the person you're debating with.

As negative as accusing somebody of intentionally lying?

Or is it only a personal attack when other people dare to disagree with 
Alf P. Steinbach?

> In addition, your statement about the earlier attacks on me, is untrue,
> and your implication that it's only about attacks on me, is untrue. Both
> of which are very misleading, by the way. I'm assuming that you're
> intentionally lying.

Get over yourself. You're not so important that everyone is falling over 
themselves to discredit you by intentional lying.

You do bring some technical knowledge and perspectives that is valuable to
this community, but it comes with so much spikiness, near-paranoia and
Freudian projection that it is extremely unpleasant dealing with you.

Since you first came to this community, you have displayed a remarkable 
ability to take personal offence at virtually every disagreement, a 
deeply paranoid viewpoint that whenever somebody contradicts your 
statements they are deliberately lying, and a level of arrogance that is 
outstanding even for computer science. (How sure of yourself do you have 
to be to write a textbook for beginners in a language that you yourself 
are a self-professed beginner in?)

I note with interest that this is not the only forum where your reaction 
to disagreement is to accuse others of deliberate lying. It is a habit of 
yours, and you've displayed it frequently and repeatedly. For example:

I'm no longer willing to tolerate the unpleasant attitudes you 
display. So congratulations Alf. I've only kill-filed one other person on 
this newsgroup until now. You are now the second. I may reverse it some 
time in the future, but for now I'm just not interested in your paranoid 
accusations that others are lying about you and your continual misuse of 
the term "ad hominem" to refer to any and all criticism of your behaviour.



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