Bugs in CPython 3.1.1 [wave.py]

Alf P. Steinbach alfps at start.no
Wed Jan 13 06:55:27 CET 2010

* Steven D'Aprano:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:47:31 +0100, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>> PS: Next time it would have helped to include a URL to the issue.
>>>     http://bugs.python.org/issue7681
>>>     FYI there is already some feedback in the tracker.
>> Yeah, someone who had the bright idea that maybe there isn't a bug,
>> thinking instead that maybe a "wrong" name in *a comment* might be the
>> culprit  --  of all things!
>> He was probably just trying to be helpful.
>> But what do you say to someone who tries to help but is really just
>> making a mess of things? 
> Before pointing out the mote in another person's eye, you should consider 
> the enormous beam in yours. You initially reported a completely bogus 
> error (NameError: name 'framerate' is not defined) and Brian responded to 
> that.
> I don't know why you're claiming he was responding to a name that was 
> commented out, when you included a traceback clearly showing that the 
> line was executed.

No, the out-commented line was not executed and was not shown in any traceback.

Comments are not executed.

> If we're supposed to think Brian "is really just making a mess of 
> things" (your words) for responding to incorrect information, what are we 
> supposed to think of the person who submitted the incorrect information 
> in the first place?

I'm sorry but you're trying to make people believe something that you know is 
false, which is commonly called lying.

The error report included the line numbers of the buggy lines, plus a correction 
of the output: I first pasted incorrect error message, then corrected that 
*immediately*. But I just found no way to edit the original message, so both 
that and the correction ended up present. The correction with "Sorry, here's the 
correct message", or words to that effect. In the one and only original submission.

So it's not like the person responding should have any problem at all, and it's 
not like he was presented with incorrect information. To top it off he did not 
respond to the output that was corrected. He believed the problem was a name in 
a comment.

> I think you need to chill out and stop treating a simple bug report as a 
> personal slight on you.

I'm sorry but you're again trying to make people believe something that you know 
is false, which is commonly called lying: it is not the case that I have strong 
feelings or any feelings at all about that bug report or any other.

But you're starting to annoy me.

I think it's OK when you respond to technical issues where you have 
misunderstood something basic, even when you do that by assertion, as you 
usually do (it would be better if you just asked about things that you don't 
understand). But it's not OK when you're trying to create impressions that are 
false, and it's not OK when you try to demonstrate telepathic powers and discuss 
others' emotions and motivations. I tell you straight.

- Alf

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