GNU Emacs Developement Inefficiency (commentary)

[Emmy Noether]

On Jul 16, 2:59 pm, Xah Lee <xah... at gmail.com> wrote:
> In comp.emacs Xah Lee <xah... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > GNU Emacs Developement Inefficiency
> > It [a bug report] got closed right away i suppose partly has to do with
> > my unforgiving nature of criticizing and run-in with some GNU emacs
> > developers in gnu.emacs.help and comp.emacs in the past 5 or so years.
>
> On Jul 16, 9:25 am, Alan Mackenzie <a... at muc.de> wrote:
>
> > It has to be said that that criticism has sometimes involved the use of
> > curse words.
>
> i admit that's true.

Didnt you say that you wrote several polite emails and it did not
work ??? Have some spine and say the truth !!!

> > So if your bug reports are getting things moved, what's so frustrating?
>
> couldn've been better.

You meant "could've"

> > > Re-writing the whole doc in a modern perspective might take me one
> > > month full time. (e.g. 160 hours)
>
> > I think it would take you a great deal longer than that.  But it would be
> > easy enough to experiment on.  Chose some chapter from the Emacs or Elisp
> > manual, fire away and see how long it takes you.
>
> btw, i don't think elisp manual needs to be re-worked, or at least not
> critical... but i think it's much critical that the emacs manual be.

What he needs is to give a clear and concise explanation of the data-
structures and algorithms of the software. If he used ideas from
others, he need to give reference to them so others can find it and
get into depth. There is no need to make professional diagrams using
xfig etc if it takes too much time. He only needs a scanner, pencil ,
eraser and a ruler.

Others who worked for him and learnt the hard way can also do it , but
I suspect he extracted such a price that they wont be able to give
freely. The XEMACs people deserve some commendation .

> > I think your changes would not be accepted as such.  Quite bluntly, your
> > English isn't good enough, so somebody would have to go through your
> > version eliminating solecisms.  There's a vast gap between being able to
> > use English adequately to transmit your meaning and being able to write
> > stylish and correct English.  Your English belongs to the former
> > category.  As a matter of interest, what is your native language?
>
> Haha, that's a good one.

This is why they brought indians to checkmate the chinese. They can
put this accusation of english as they used to do on the asians and
japanese throughout the 90s by Japanese Bashing. I remember very well
that George Bush senior vomited on the face of Toshiki Kaifu to insult
him intentionally in Japan. This is just a false excuse to give proper
space to you. I think you write excellently.

> i disconcur. See:
>
> • The Writing Style on XahLee.org
>  http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/bangu/xah_style.html
>
> > > (the GNU emacs dev's revision control system was CVS up to ~2008. CVS
> > > has been phased out by 2000 in vast majority of software orgs or
> > > projects. I think GNU emacs now using SVN, while most bleeding edge
> > > orgs have switched to git, mercurial, distributed systems. (e.g.
> > > FireFox, Google))
>
> > What's your source for "the vast majority" of projects no longer using
> > CVS, again as a matter of interest?
>
> sloppy exaggeration. Though, i would say “majority”, from experience.
> e.g. look at google and other large orgs commercial or open source,
> and look at the revision system supported by large project hosters
> such as google code, SourceForge, github...

Mackenzie, bring a properly written documentation by FSF for example
on emacs of gcc. I want to see where RMS got his ideas ? Did he invent
all of them himself ? Is he giving proper references to the sources of
the ideas ? Is that plagiarism ?

I am sick of such jews/zionists like RMS, Roman Polansky, Bernard
Madoff, Larry Ellison (he had to pay 100K in court to a chinese girl
he screwed), Stephen Wolfram, Albert Einstein spreading anti-semitism
by their flagrant unethical behaviour.

If you use someone else's ideas, give reference. Dont try to portray
yourself falsely as a genius by hiding sources and weaving rosy false
pictures of being a victim or born out of wedlock. you went to school
and got good education. you got insights from your community and good
mentorship from other jews in aggressive networking in the jews like
other communities dont have.

These are facts. Thats why these people dont stand to scrutiny and
questioning.

> > Emacs uses BZR, not SVN, and has
> > done since the beginning of 2010.
>
> Thanks for your correction. Updated my site.

Write a good documentation using pencil and scan that helps newbies
enter the field.

If it is not there, you will be subject of perpetual criticism and no
thanks.

> (also thanks to Uday S Reddy & David Kastrup for comment.)
>
>   Xah
> ∑http://xahlee.org/
>
> ☄